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The Constitutional Court of Poland (which includes illegally appointed judges) just made a ruling regarding abortion law.

Abortion in PL is now illegal for p. much ANY reason. Women will be forced to give birth not just to children that result from rape. It'll actually be illegal to abort a foetus without lungs or a brain. No, this is not an exaggeration.

This is a EU country in 2020. Difficult to imagine, right?

Please boost to make this widely known.

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

For context: the current Constitutional Court is pretty much a bunch of lapdogs for the ruling, conservative Catholic party.

They tried a few times to introduce a harsher abortion law, but chickened out after extremely widespread protests.

So they figured they'd change the situation via Constitutional Court ruling, while pretending to keep their hands clean.

This is unbelievably evil, but I guess that's how ultra-conservative Catholics roll.

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

This is getting a shitload of boosts (thank you!), so two clarifications:

1) Abortion law in PL was already crazy restrictive, which is important context. PL law in this respect is worse than in most countries worldwide.

2) More importantly - it was correctly pointed out that my CW is trans-exclusionary. This is 100% correct. Not only women can get pregnant. "women's rights" was meant as shorthand, but I was wrong to use it and I'm really sorry.

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Or rather, I was wrong to frame it as *only* being about women's rights, because of course it's about women's rights *among others*.

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@oddtail

Correction: Abortion of foetuses conceived as a result of crime or in situations of danger to the mother are currently allowed, but

A) It's still egregious.

B) A conservative politician in today's discussion on TVN said that they (PIS Party) will be working towards banning abortion altogether. She said it explicitly on television. Didn't even hide behind a euphemism.

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@glitchyhare thank you for the correction.

A near-complete ban on abortion in 2020, in a country that's part of the European Union, is still insane.

There's no major country in Europe (nost jut EU) with abortion law even NEAR that restrictive.

The abortion law in Malta is less strict. And Malta is a country that was literally founded as a religious order.

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@oddtail

No problem! And I agree with all of your statements there.

The politician, Lidia I think was her name, when asked if she thought 12 year olds should be forced to give birth, said that "no 12 year old should ever get pregnant" and when it was pointed out that the question was about rape, she just avoided it.

She also said people should be forced to give birth to terminally ill babies. And all she proposed was counseling.

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@oddtail

Side note: It is absolutely despicable to me that conservatives wipe themselves with disabled rights and use them for political goals and then go on removing protections/accommodations for disabled people.

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@oddtail this is so evil, they did it exactly when no one could protest and so many people will get hurt
oh my god I hate this so much, I thought Russia was the most retrograd country in eastern europe but this is just another level, I hope they don't get the same idea

I really hope EU makes some pressure on them

PL politics, women's rights 

@oddtail Yes, I think it's terrible that Poland forbids abortion and that has to be tooted, but I don't retoot that "disabled child worse than rape"-message. Go about yourself.

PL politics, women's rights 

@anthra @oddtail Appears to me that OP was not saying anything about disabled children, but rather ones that will never survive past birth (no brain, lungs). In any case, I’m not qualified to decide which is worse to carry to term. Both sound horrific in their own ways.

@oddtail where can I read more about these insane things happening in Poland? Feels like there’s not enough media coverage here. Just a concerned neighbor.

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@slauraure @anthra yes, I was talking about the fact that women will have to carry foetuses that will be unable to survive. My phrasing could've been better, and I'm sorry.

Thing is, "pregnancy should be carried to term even if it will just results in death, immediate or after painful, inevitable agony" is so monstrous, it's hard to wrap one's head around. It's literally torture of a pregnant woman for no purpose.

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@oddtail nah, your phrasing was fine

to the point that someone thinking that you were talking about disabled people who have viability outside of the womb was not actually reading

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@oddtail Do you have sources for the ban in case of rape? All newspapers I check say thing like "It means abortion is only valid in cases of rape or incest, or to protect the mother's life." (bbc).

In any case, this is really serious and I hope the EU can have the power to do something about it.

re: PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@guillaume my fault, my Toot implies that it's true for rape.

The reality is that it is not true... yet. Politicians from the ruling party are already talking about introducing a law that'd enforce such a ban.

Sorry about the confusion/misinformation.

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@oddtail @catgoat i mean not hard to believe if u talk w poles bc jfc a dumpster fire to rival the usa rn

PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@hi_cial @catgoat you're not wrong, but in the US it at least seems that most people want to vote for politicians that will scale back the shit.

In Poland, the ruling party continues to enjoy decent levels of support. Not an outright majority, but more than any other party.

There's something fundamentally wrong with how Polish people approach politics (I don't wanna say a lot of Poles are dumb shits, but it kinda feels like they're dumb shits).

re: PL politics, women's rights, PLEASE boost 

@oddtail and it doesnt help when the liberal party is like 'hey you know what, lets make bffs with the neonazis this election cycle :) thatll really boost our appeal!'

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