"Just go zero-waste!" is to environmentalism as "Just give up all the software you currently use and vet, hack, and troubleshoot all of your software yourself, building an encyclopedic knowledge of all the ways you're tracked and blocking each one!" is to infosec

It shouldn't be our responsibility to keep companies from stealing our data, nor should it be our responsibility to keep them from giving us plastic packaging. Especially when the alternatives are so inaccessible to the average person. Stop blaming the victim



As an Environmentalist myself I also frequently lament the classism I see in a lot of Environmental stuff.

Like, look pasture-raised, grass-fed, free-range meat can easily go for $10-15 a pound which puts it way out of reach of most families

And going Vegan is not a good option in a food desert where the only produce available is cheap canned vegetables that have had all the nutrients boiled out of them

I try to do the best I can but I can't afford everything organic.

@Tau_Leonis @socalledunitedstates Organic isn't inherently better than anything else. Watch Science Moms, it does a pretty good job at debunking the organic=good marketing idea.

But yes, even organic stuff comes in plastic if you're not buying it straight from the farm. It has to be a change at production level unless you live in the middle of a farmers market.

@kaikatsu @socalledunitedstates

Yeah that was a casualty of the 500 character limit. I used organic produce to mean that ideally I would like produce that was grown carefully and in an environmentally friendly matter and even more ideally was grown and picked by people earning a living wage and not this under-the-table no-insurance off-the-books exploiting Migrant labot shit that some agricultural groups do.

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