I'm quite sad about the Stallman thing and I'm worried that we're creating immense conformist pressure that stifles free thinking, free speech and the ability to question taboos and assumptions.
Oftentimes the people who claim to promote diversity and inclusiveness are actually quite intolerant of diversity of thought and opinion.
@jcbrand While I can see your concern, we've cut Stallman an incredible amount of slack. This is far from the first strike, and his recent comments crossed a serious line. 😕
What line was that?
@jcbrand Claiming that the most likely scenario in which children are involved in a sex scandal is one in which they consent. You should go and read the statements he made recently that caused all of this. His statements were more awful than usual, but followed the usual pattern of behavior he's been having for a while.
> Claiming that the most likely scenario in which children are involved in a sex scandal is one in which they consent
I read the email exchange, and I don't see that claim being made.
This is what I read:
He said that if she was coerced by Epstein, she might have presented herself as willing to Minsky, thereby fooling Minsky into thinking it was consensual when in reality it was not.
> You should go and read the statements he made
I did and it looks to me like people are putting words in his mouth.
I even see people say he's an Epstein apologist. I haven't seen anything to that effect.
As the father of a 1 year old daughter, this subject is gross beyond belief, and I find pedophiles terrifying. But Stallman's point (stupid and unnecessary as it was) is definitely being twisted and mischaracterized.
@jcbrand Shoot... I don't understand this situation at all. This might have just been Stallman's usual kinda questionable behavior in a particularly bad context, then. 😕
@amsomniac @jcbrand Again, this alone is really bad. 😬😕 This completely disregards the complexities associated with consent, which is far more complicated than a simple impulsive desire. Not only are there power imbalances associated with age differences, but there is also a need to understand the social and societal context into which sex fits in order to ensure you're not putting yourself in a situation that is against your best interests.